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1, I can't stand people who abuse and take advantage of elderly
*
2. I do not like it when people threaten my friends -
particularly when my friends are speaking the truth to protect others from abuse.
Savcash Betty Brown...
will have her turn soon enough...we all get older...by the day... her so called "KARMA" will come soon enough; just leave my friend Lily Miller alone!
Thank you....
I agree...Lily works too much.
3. you are a nasty manipulative liar
is this rEAlly what you want to support Jeff B.?
I think Savcash
really believes her version of events. In spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, she believes that Dean is a good guy who was always either in the wrong place at the wrong time or that he was merely misunderstood. After filing a stakling protection order against him, she has admitted on this site that he is currently living with her. I think we should feel sorry for savcash and hope she sees the light before she becomes another victim of Dean's.
typo
sorry. stalking. Shouldn't drink wine while I post. But, hey, it's Friday.
stealing from the elderly
put the thieves in jail
1st off
DW, if there were any improper shenanigans going on, the police and the APS would have found it I assure you. The aps went back 3 years and could not find ANY theft at all, because there WAS none. You don't get to hit and run either. No one stole anything.
Now fishy, let me copy and post for you ---hehee -----
copy=======[debra just became noner if anyone missed it today]=======
=== well
Submitted by noner on March 24, 2011 - 8:16pm.
you guys are in for the long haul then....
my husband just went to buy me a bottle of wine.
reply.===============[and your post] =============
======= typo
Submitted by fishy on March 18, 2011 - 6:05pm.
sorry. stalking. Shouldn't drink wine while I post. But, hey, it's Friday. ======================
funny all the two of you liking wine and posting so..... but I am not buying that, fishy, you are you know who it appears.
More fake handles, again, others speaking out of both sides of their mouth. whew, Betty
The problem is, America is NOT a Democracy - it is a Republic! As our Founding Fathers established, can we keep it?
2d off, savcash
the APS did find lots of money given by a woman deemed incompetent to your felon boyfriend. Twist it however you won't. It stinks, and you stink, and this whole thing stinks.
whew,
DW
America, the democracy, except for the wackos who want to take it away.
WE all are an open book
No mame,
First off, "the woman" Evelyn, was found competent by her own doctor. That is why she did not consent to another evaluation. She passed the tests with flying colors.
If you check, the only money paid to the caregiver, were re-reimbursements for food shopping, getting her meds, and house hold expense (like lawn fertilizer, dog food, etc) which - if you took the time to see, averages $300.00 a month. So, for each of those last 3 yrs they investigated, it was approx. $3,000 a yr paid back to him. As he paid out of his own pocket when he made the purchases, and he gave her all the receipts, and she wrote the check for that amount.
You are doing the twisting, and not I. When I first came here, it was YOU who attacked me first, and then you got others on your ill-fated band wagon.
You Debbie, are the cause of all of this, tisk, tisk, Betty
PS> You should follow the Golden Rule, as we do. AND love others as you love yourself.
The problem is, America is NOT a Democracy - it is a Republic! As our Founding Fathers established, can we keep it?
PSS If you need many refs to show America is NOT any democracy run Nation, I can give them to you. Scads, so again, you are ALL WET!
again and again
the poor woman was found incompetent. Do you think that this is why you and Dean were not charged with theft as Evelyn was unable to assist the prosecution?
Yep, Betty Brown, I like and respect the elderly, and I will defend them.
And to you, I am DW.
PS Have you gone through any of the old posts and looked at how many old time users have changed their names to obvious aliases?
dw are u really that clueless?
When an elder is 'robbed of all of her/their rights, without any due process by the Adult Protective Services and the courts' then she is made a WARD of the court.
Appointed a guardian, who for all intent and purpose, becomes the ward. He/she 'slips' into the ward's shoes and can act as her. (Sell her house, spend her money, open her safe deposit box, etc) and if any wrongs are found with those caring for her, bring charges and have them arrested.
See, all but the last happened there.... no charges because no wrongs were done in Evelyn's life by her care givers.
Try again, Betty
and I am not certain you are not dbra, and I have seen from the past, she has to have the last word, we are not done with her yet on here. :( for all I feel sorry for that.
Here is a taste of her posts, and that is why IMO she is deleting them, so her name is not out there with such cruel things said to others. Guy had to come back in another post and defend himself (against his friends, cough, cough) yet, and I sure don't see others on here chiming in to his defense against this cruel baseless attack. ---copy--(opps, debra shephard will prob delete this thread too, because her name is in it and she sure does not want search engines picking it up, instead of her art. That, IMO is why all the delete.)-----copy---opps,,, cj, who is being hurtful?? -------copy----
----actually a very good friend of mine was his mother's nurse
Submitted by lobelia66 on March 18, 2011 - 5:57pm.
she said the filth was beyond anything she had ever seen and Guy would not allow his mother her purse or to use the phone.
Birds of a feather....
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see, i don't think you get to do that, it is hearsay, and u try
Submitted by savcash on March 18, 2011 - 6:29pm.
to trash a person's reputation?? I have no idea if that person telling you this had so many houses that she mixed up someone elses to you. Or that your memory is bad. Just saying, hearsay isn't just right to trash some person's reputation. I don't know Guy, never met him in person anyway - but he seems like a very giving and caring man.
One who would not harm a loved one, in any way.
There are people out there who have things all wrong, and try to get off saying all the wrong things. Like dbra over there, posting I paid him 3 grand, 12 hundred dollars, etc, etc. (who was him?? It was out of evelyn's ccard, to the atty for her - for her case, but worse choice in lawyers I could have made. All talk and no walk, if you know what I mean ("I'll get a restraining order against Adult Protective serv if i have to") and because she is posting twisted content, it is left to be a lie. IF there were any wrongs, there would have been arrests. They could not find anything to arrest him on,so who knows, maybe the russian girl was a plant?? And they have been known to have done those kind of things. She screamed foul play on her, when if you seen the pic and such, it was not.
So, based upon hearsay, thanks, but no thanks, I still prefer to believe Guy and most all (from exp) care-givers are good to their loved ones. Thanks tho, for al least having a post that YOU might have believed in.
Always the Best,Betty
The problem is, America is NOT a Democracy - it is a Republic! As our Founding Fathers established, can we keep it?
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I can
Submitted by lobelia66 on March 18, 2011 - 7:18pm.
and I did.
ANd trust me she was NOT mistaken - rather she was horrified.
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how many fake names do you all have?
Submitted by savcash on March 20, 2011 - 4:46pm.
You are debra who has been trashing left and right, now you feel a need to come in and act like someone else and post trash about Guy's house?? Whew, debra, errrr, lobelia66, knock it off already. You attack and slam and use lies and worse all day long, now it is with more than one profile like Lily Miller, whew, just sad, YOU LIE so bad - just sad....Betty
http://realneo.us/user/lobelia66/track
but from dbra's own mouth = copy---
no sweetie -
Submitted by dbra on March 20, 2011 - 11:38am.
I created that account when I wanted to post the To Masumi show... then I didn't bother with RealNEO for a year or so.
When I came back I couldn't remember my user name or password, so I created the one I use now.
If you track lobelia, you'll see I used it several months ago when I found the password info....[//] end copy
AND THEN U COME BACK IN AND PRETEND/POST TO BE YOURSELF AGAIN, ASKING WHY CAN'T SHE?? TWISTING SOME MORE, YUCK!
PS, ok - done now, this was in defense of Guy - YOU ALL KEEP ON DIGGING YOURSELVES A BIGGER HOLE, HEHEE
The problem is, America is NOT a Democracy - it is a Republic! As our Founding Fathers established, can we keep it?
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regular members would know why I would need to do that
Submitted by noner on March 20, 2011 - 5:28pm.
why I'd use an alias in that instance. But its none of your business.
And how would YOU know if its true or not? It seems if something doesn't please you, its a lie. Same irrational thinking found in most Sovereign Citizen Movement garbage.
You know part of living with other people is accepting rules that sometimes don't go YOUR way. Try explaining that to your CSM buddies.
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I'm confused
Submitted by noner on March 18, 2011 - 7:19pm.
why can't she?
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The problem is, America is NOT a Democracy - it is a Republic! As our Founding Fathers established, can we keep it?
reposting can be done so that it is complete
EVELYN SCHWARTZ and DEAN MARINPIETRI (her caregiver) Would you trust this man caring for your elderly relative? REVISED
Ohio Inmate photo of DEAN MARINPIETRI (Evelyn Schwartz's live-in caregiver)
The sad case of Evelyn Schwartz has created a lot of controversy for well over one year. Here is one side of the controversy , and below is another version:
For the past 15 years, DEAN MARINPIETRI, a handyman, has provided care for Evelyn, and at some point of time Dean moved in the home with the elderly lady.
Allegations of possible neglect and other concerns caused Evelyn to be removed from her home:
STATE OF OHIO : AFFIDAVIT OF SOCIAL WORKER
: LYNETTE HOOD
COUNTY OF CUYAHOGA :
LYNETTE HOOD, being first duly sworn, states that she is of sound mind, competent to testify, has personal knowledge of the facts contained herein and they are true to the best of her knowledge and belief:
1. Affiant is employed as a social worker for the Cuyahoga County Department of Senior and Adult Services, Adult Protective Services (APS), 1701 E. 12, Cleveland, Ohio.
2. hi the course of her employment, affiant has investigated a referral concerning the adult Evelyn Schwartz, whose date of birth is April 19, 1916 and whose address is 1143 Genessee Ave., Mayfield Heights, Ohio 44124.
3. Ms. Schwartz requires assistance with her activities of daily living and instrumental activities of daily living.
4. It has been reported that Ms. Schwartz suffers from osteoarthritis, diabetes, atrial dibrillation, weakness in her legs, and forgetfulness. It was also reported that she has an unsteady gait and is at risk for falls.
5. Ms. Schwartz relies on the assistance of a man named Dean Marinpietri who resides with her.
6. Mr. Marinpietri refused to allow Ms. Schwartz to receive home care services after she was discharged from a nursing facility.
7. It has been reported that Mr. Marinpietri is very intimidating and has a criminal record.
8. Ms. Schwartz's health care power-of-attorney Dorothy Buzek resides in Georgia. Her sister-in-law Eleanor Uhlir lives in Olmsted Township and has also been unable to visit or speak with Ms. Schwartz.
9. APS was able to successfully visit several times with Ms. Schwartz but at this time Mr. Marinpietri is refusing to allow me to visit Ms. Schwartz. APS has been unable to see Ms. Schwartz since April 1, 2009.
10. Ms. Schwartz is unable to manage her finances independently.
Dean Marinpietri, the live-in caregiver, has serious criminal convictions and a violent history. Dean was just recently released from prison.
Stated Prison Term:
Expiration Stated Term:
Actual Release Date:
1 year
01/07/2011
01/07/2011
Attempted felonious assault
Weapon under Disability
Burglary
Violation of Protection Order
CUYAHOGA COUNTY
CR-10-533052-A
THE STATE OF OHIO vs. DEAN MARINPIETRI
VIOLATING PROTECTION ORDER, CONSENT AGREEMENT, ANTI-STALKING
REPEAT VIOLENT OFFENDER
THE COURT HEREBY ORDERS HILLCREST HOSPITAL TO PROVIDE CERTIFIED MEDICAL RECORDS FOR AZADA ATHMEDOVA, WHO WAS TREATED AND/OR ADMITTED ON OR ABOUT 11/13/09.
FELONIOUS ASSAULT
TEMPORARY PROTECTION ORDER TO REMAIN IN EFFECT.
Capias 12/29/09
BOND SET AT 500,000.00 DOLLARS
And Dean also had two petitions for civil stalking protection orders filed against him by two former girlfriends:
08CS000978 BROWN, BETTY J vs. MARINPIETRI, DEAN M RLC LAKE COUNTY
03/21/2008
Petition for civil stalking protection order
09CS002627 JONES, LINDA D vs. MARINPIETRI, DEAN M LAKE COUNTY
08/13/2009
Petition for civil stalking protection order
In 1986, Dean's mental health was questioned and the court ordered a psychiatric evaluation on Dean Marinpietri.
CUYAHOGA COUNTY
CR-86-212188-ZA
STATE OF OHIO vs. DEAN MARINPIETRI
DEFENDANT REFERRED TO PSYCHIATRIC CLINIC UNDER O.R.C. SECTION 2945.371, COMPETENCY TO STAND TRIAL AND UNDER O.R.C. SECTION 2945.39 SANITY AT THE TIME OF THE ACT
In 1987, THE DEFENDANT HEREIN HAVING, ON A FORMER DAY OF COURT ENTERED PLEA OF GUILTY TO RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY, MV., RC.2913.51 COUNT ONE, GUILTY RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY, RC.2913.51 COUNT TWO, GUILTY AGGRAVATED BURGLARY, RC.2911.11 COUNTS EIGHT AND ELEVEN OF INDICTMENT, WAS THIS DAY IN OPEN COURT WITH HIS/HER COUNSEL PRESENT. THEREUPON, THE COURT INQUIRED OF THE SAID DEFENDANT IF HE/SHE HAD ANYTHING TO SAY WHY JUDGMENT SHOULD NOT BE PRONOUNCED AGAINST HIM/HER; AND HAVING NOTHING BUT WHAT HE/SHE HAD ALREADY SAID AND SHOWING NO GOOD AND SUFFICIENT CAUSE WHY JUDGMENT SHOULD NOT BE PRONOUNCED. IT IS THEREFORE, ORDERED AND ADJUDGED BY THE COURT THAT SAID DEFENDANT, DEAN MARINPIETRI, IS SENTENCED TO THE CHILLICOTHE CORR. INSTITUTION, CHILLICOTHE, OHIO, UNDER ALL COUNTS; COUNTS ONE AND TWO EACH FOR TERM OF ONE (1) YEAR; COUNTS EIGHT AND ELEVEN EACH FOR TERM OF SIX TO TWENTY-FIVE (6-25) YEARS. SENTENCE ON EACH COUNT TO RUN CONCURENT AND CONCURRENTLY WITH CASE CR-212320
According to records, Dean and at least one of his girlfriends were assisting Evelyn with her personal finances including writing, deposting, and cashing checks:
2) DM was also authorized by KH to do the necessary shopping for groceries,trips to doctors, pharmacy and bank. Trips to the bank to cash checks and to deposit into checking, or return to ES with cash. When ES's hands became too crippled with arthritis, she authorized Linda Jones to write the checks, and then ES would sign them.
3}
When DM did repairs inside or outside of the home, {or food shopping,etc.) she would reimburse him with a check, or cash.
LINDA JONES, the authorized person to write the checks, is alleged to now be a former girlfriend of Dean , according to Betty Brown.
http://www.countygrandjury.org/schwartz/apsvevemarch15%20bb%20response%20to%20rice%20affid.pdf
According to Cuyahoga County Probate Court records, Dean was also involved with another elderly man, Joseph Whalen, Sr. When Whalen died , Dean caused a case to be filed in Probate Court. Contesting family members stepped in, and Dean was removed from the Probate Court case, but not before DNA was requested from the deceased Whalen to verify the possible relatives:
2001 ADV 0049650
Complaint to Determine Heirs at Law Dismissed
BETTY BROWN, Dean Marinpietri's ex-girlfriend, has spent a lot of time spreading the word on Evelyn Schwartz's removal from her home by the APS. Betty is a member of http://www.countygrandjury.org and actively promotes this organization.
Details regarding the Sovereign Citizen Movement reflect a movement that is known to take sympathy causes and use them to their benefit- financially or otherwise. see example of the financial side below:
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Commerce even. It is TWO steps =
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More widespread than violence is a set of tactics known as "paper terrorism," in which sovereign citizens use legal filings to harass, intimidate, and retaliate against public officials, law enforcement officers, and others.
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As is true for most types of extremist movements, the sovereign citizen movement has come to rely heavily on the Internet for propaganda, recruitment, and funds.
The internet is also useful for sovereign citizen con artists to reach gullible victims and cause unsuspecting citizens to become members with stories that reflect emotion and sympathy. Are you gullible?
Who are the "Sovereigns"?
It would be tempting to dismiss the violence that took place that day as an isolated event — an unstable father and son who exploded in a moment of vicious, unexplained fury. The truth, however, is more frightening. Jerry Kane and his young son were active participants in the sprawling subculture of "sovereign citizens" in America: hundreds of thousands of far-right extremists who believe that they — not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials — get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore, and who don't think they should have to pay taxes. While law enforcement officers may disagree on how to deal with or even label this extremist subculture, one thing is certain: it's trouble. The sovereign movement is growing fast, and its partisans are clogging up the courts with their indecipherable filings. When cornered, many of them lash out in rage, frustration and, in the most extreme cases, acts of deadly violence.
The FBI discusses the Sovereign Citizen Movement here
“You can help,” The FBI concludes. “First, ‘be crime smart’: don’t fall for the bogus claims and scams of sovereign citizens. And second, if you have information on any suspicious activities or crimes, please contact us.”
Threads such as this trash left by her should be deleted too
As it was just put up to slam another - and is not factual, but twisted, not complete -not anything but a hit and miss on dis-information as well. I see you removed the post where she/dbra/noner Debra Shepherd called me the C word, why not just zap the whole thread? Along with her posting trash, now there is outthere (who could be Debra or truth b told - you know who, same as fishy) and this is exactly what started all the mess on realneo in the first place. Attacking others with lies as twisted opinions and slandering deflamitory content - while doing that behind a fake handle.
Even you, who sign your work, do not hide behind a no name handle, and put all this effort into this site, debra attacks at will. Let's get rid of the attack posts, she is gone. Zap the threads that are such as this one.
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dick it up, dicker...
Submitted by noner on March 24, 2011 - 6:48pm.
all I nicely asked Jeff B to do was delete my account....
but he has to be a dick.
dick it up dicker!
[//]
Making this site into a good place, it really needs these trashy posts and THREADS of hers like this zapped. Thanks, Betty
The problem is, America is NOT a Democracy - it is a Republic! As our Founding Fathers established, can we keep it?
trash? come on, now Betty
You still not liking the truth? You came on, invited your friends, and now want free speech deleted? anything that you decide is trash gets deleted? HMMM, what is up with THAT?
I am detecting a pattern.....................Fits in with a post of yours that you deleted recently about your beliefs and what you are doing here at this site:
It is not free speech if it is not 100% factual. And I deleted
It is not free speech if it is not 100% factual. And I deleted the thread because
dbra came on and put her transcription of sammie's tirade to Guy with all of the F-bombs, M-Fers, C-suckers, etc into my thread. Not going to promote such language and embarrass the readers, as the poster (if she had any decency, cough cough) debra shephard embarrassed herself.
Truth b told or Dbra, I don't think you wish to continue this, the wheels are turning. And the fake handle won't be fake and hidden if I have my way - for too long yet anyway. Digging a bigger hole isn't a good or smart thing.
Making this site into a good place, it really needs these trashy posts zapped (like I did) .
AND THOSE THINGS ARE NOT MY AGENDA, ( I DON'T NEED ANYONE TO SPEAK FOR ME) STOP TWISTING THINGS!!
AHA, I SEE YOU CHANGED THINGS, (SOME ANYWAY) NOW, PARTS...... WELL, )Thanks, Betty,
The problem is, America is NOT a Democracy - it is a Republic! As our Founding Fathers established, can we keep it?
Who decides the facts
you? and what way can you really have to discover the identities of users? Gee, I am starting to feel discriminated against. greatboldworld, Historian, you haven't demanded their names.
Did APS ever say that you twisted the facts?
whoever they are, I like them
It is someone attacking my friends and myself, with untrue posts and slander, those I hold accountable.
I am done talking to someone such as the likes of you, Betty
The problem is, America is NOT a Democracy - it is a Republic! As our Founding Fathers established, can we keep it?
well, I am glad that you like
them, you invited them via the resistnet PAN.
good night.
I dont like these "PATROIT" people
they are going to make smoking pot a drag....
Patriots so good on global warming
NOT REALLY!:
FROM PAN:
Nasa Targets American Children With New "Global Warming" Hoax
NASA Targets American Children With New 'Global Warming' Hoax Propaganda Website
Yet another example of the radical left's efforts to brainwash our children into buying into the Global Warming Hoax, and the resultant "Economic Justice" (Socialism/Communism/Fascism) they are foisting upon the American people, courtesy of YOUR TAX DOLLARS and the Barack Hussein Obama Regime (not to mention the 111th Congress)!
You definitely want to see this. If you have children (or grandchildren) attending Government Indoctrination CentersPublic Schools, you may wish to take this as a reminder to talk to your children about what they're learning with respect to Global Warming/Climate Change, and what they think about it. Then set them straight if they need it!
This is about the fight for America's future. Today's children will become tomorrow's leaders. This sort of garbage has fully infiltrated schools in every state. We MUST stay on top of this, and STOP IT ASAP!
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NASA TARGETS ‘CLIMATE KIDS’ WITH NEW GLOBAL WARMING WEBSITE
Posted on January 24, 2011 at 9:12pm by Meredith Jessup
NASA, the government agency that put a man on the moon and sent robots to Mars, is turning its focus around and working on spreading information among the public about the earth’s apparent impending doom. A new agency website dubbed “Climate Kids” has “NASA’s eyes on the earth.”
The website specifically targets young kids with games, movies, and other interactive tools that present debated theories as facts. For instance:
Additionally, the website tells kids that dinosaurs are in their gas tanks and that polar bears are dying as a result. ClimateQuotes.com reports:
These are obviously two very contentious points with only one side presented. First, they claim that:
The planet is warming up fast–faster than at any time scientists know about from their studies of Earth’s entire history.
This is flatly untrue. Remember this graphic from the BBC Phil Jones interview?
The trend of recent warming is practically identical to two previous trends. Their second claim, “Humans are causing this warming” is made without bothering to allude to any uncertainty. Even the IPCC only gives a 90% and says ‘very likely’. Saying “It is very likely that humans are causing this warming” at least lets the little tykes know it isn’t an absolute scientific fact (because it isn’t).
The site also tackles issues like the greenhouse effect, effects on wildlife (like the polar bear), ocean acidification, and offers kids advice to answer the question, “What can we do to help?”
NASA recommends kid plant trees to help save the planet and shows a picture of First Lady Michelle Obama doing her part.
The site also encourages kids to get their parents to buy new CFL light bulbs and purchase reusable grocery bags to cut down on waste. (The picture of the suggested reusable bag is quite telling, no?)
“Climate Kids” also suggests kids do simple things like save water, unplug “electricity vampires” and ride a bike instead of taking a car.
But if kids want to make a real difference, NASA recommends they grow up to work in a “green career.”
You can help to solve climate change problems and challenges. These are the exciting careers of the future. They range from designing satellites for NASA to fixing wind-energy generators to planning drought-tolerant landscapes for homes and parks. Many of the possible careers haven’t even been thought of yet. You could invent your own career!
The “Climate Kids” website also has a designated section for educators where NASA offers “climate-related activities for the classroom“ and ”resources on climate change” from the U.S. Department of Education.
ClimateQuotes asks the obvious question: “Why do we need federal agencies to create programs which educate children about climate change?”
Even if we ignore that question and accept the role of federal agencies as educators, we still are left with a completely one-sided presentation. There is no mention in the NASA site of uncertainties. There is practically no timescale presented to give context. The site urges children to pick certain ‘green’ careers over others. The positives of renewable energy are praised, with no mention of the drawbacks. Whether or not you believe this site should even exist (with taxpayer funding), certainly we can all agree the issues presented need to be balanced. There is no balance on the NASA Climate Kids website. I’d wager that if all references to NASA were removed, the site would be indistinguishable from an environmentalist site.
Good use of taxpayer dollars? You decide.
On a related note, using kids to spread talking points on climate change and a new “green”-driven economy is not new. 1Sky Campaign, an organization supported by a number environmentalist “allies” such as former President Bill Clinton and former White House green jobs czar Van Jones, has also used children to highlight its own political message:
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WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
Tags: American, Change, Children, Climate, Deceit, Deception, Fraud, Global, Hoax, NASA
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REPLIES TO THIS DISCUSSION
Permalink Reply by robdodson 5 hours ago
I wonder who funds NASA.... oh never mind.
Permalink Reply by Albert M. Bryson 5 hours ago
What a pack of lies our kids are being told by NASA. It is time to give that agency a mercy killing. If they are promoting global warming or climate change is caused by humans then we need to make sure that this program is canceled and abolish by Congress. Our government is always to us. We not believe anything put out by the federal government.
Permalink Reply by Wendy Gallamore 5 hours ago
My sons, who both attend public school, bristle at the mention of "global warming" and "climate change." Fortunately, they keep me informed on any indoctrination they encounter. (Some of the WORST propaganda comes from Disney Channel and the like.)
Permalink Reply by Donna 5 hours ago
They started with the communist propaganda in the 1920's and look what we have now! I don't have kids--if i did and a teacher tried to brainwash them,that teacher would HEAR from ME!!
Permalink Reply by Ted Pearson 5 hours ago
Let nasa know what you think. http://climate.nasa.gov/kids/feedback/
Permalink Reply by Benjamin Alderson 31 seconds ago
Good call Ted. I sent them the following comment:
This site delivers unfounded theories based on proven falsified data as irrefutable fact and gives zero acknowledgement to the fact that human knowledge of such massive natural processes is not only extremely limited, but in this case skewed by those with a vested interest in convincing the populace at large that we are "destroying the Earth", thereby fostering an unhealthy and undeserved self-loathing guilt. While no reasonable person can argue against conservation of natural resources, the delivery of the provably false THEORY of Anthropomorphic Global Warming as undeniable FACT to CHILDREN is morally reprehensible and I am disgusted that my tax dollars are being wasted to indoctrinate children into the garbage spewed by the likes of Al Gore, a proven liar, hypocrite, and morally bankrupt politician.
The core mission of NASA is not to shill for those with an agenda, it is to seek knowledge of our universe, including our planet. You have sold out. You should remove this website immediately and get back to the real work that your administration was founded to do.
-- TAKE NOTE... when I submitted the feedback, it told me I would be sent back to the referring page (this one), so don't just click that link - copy and paste it, otherwise the webserver can track the referrer URL back to here.