It's the TAX BASE, Stupid!

Submitted by lmcshane on Sun, 08/30/2015 - 06:41.

The Aug. 16 front page story, "Abandoned homes dot the area," may have contained as much hot air as the housing bubble.

The problem is severe. Now we have public and non-government entities dedicated to the problem. A fortune in tax dollars spent. The solution is a knee-jerk reaction of aggressive demolition that will erase vacant homes from view. The cure may be worse than the ailment. Property held in the land bank does not contribute to the tax base. The current vision is as empty as the vacant lots.

The solution must be as big and important as our county. Include a plan that will create value. We have an opportunity to recreate much of our housing stock. Changing Levitt town grids into conservation sub divisions, daylighting creeks, encourage deconstruction over demolition, subsidize buildings with solar, wind, and geothermal utilities. This has to be done on a scale that brings back population lost to quality, interesting locations and value.

Our leadership is missing out on an opportunity to create new opportunity in Cuyahoga County. The current path is to watch our tax base follow the Lightning Demolition excavator into the basement cavity of where your neighbor used to live.

Patrick Delaney,
Euclid City Council, Ward 6

Patrick McLaughlin,
Euclid City Council, Ward 5

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Land BANK is killing US

I could not have said it better than the two HONORABLE councilmen quoted above^^^^^^^^

Of course, Mr. Frank Ford, has to support the legacy of his Thieving Communities boss - the previous county treasurer Jim Rokakis - you know, the guy who let the "Dirty Dozen" get away for years without paying taxes....

Thanks Tom Meyer at WKYC for mining research by Lilly Miller at REALNEO for this story:


And though this data is from 2010 - you can also see how the non-profit industry shields real estate from taxation - one of the Rokakis-Frangos specialities including NOT payng taxes at all:

The information was updated in 2013 by AngelnWard14.


Taxed to DEATH

Why would any young person want to stay in Cleveland, or even the suburbs??  Are they nuts?  And, the Greater Cleveland Partnership keeps asking us for more - with NEOMG propaganda on the schools and the City of Cleveland budget.

It is no surprise that Frank Jackson will soon be asking residents to raise the income tax level.  And, Frank's GCP handlers are fairly confident that their puppet can deliver the vote.  Afterall, he was able to sell the schools plan levy, too.

I really can't take it any more.  Thank you to Chuck Hoven at the Cleveland Plain Press for his real analysis of the school numbers:


Phillip Morris sings praise of fake messiah Rokakis-WRLC at behest of his editors:

My comment which will be deleted:




How convenient - first Treasurer Rokakis and Deputy Treasurer Frangos sell every low hanging fruit tax lien in East Cleveland and then WRLC comes in to swoop up all of those "land bank" properties for the right investors.  Keep protecting these two because Brent Larkin is a special friend of Jim Rokakis. One day, the feds will catch up and PD will look stupid again.




Ohio can't collect taxes to support services -Metroparks borrows

Please read my posts above - Cleveland and Cuyahoga County are living on borrowed time.  Greater Cleveland Partnership (aka Forest City control) encouraged Jackson to raise income tax - but it's a stop gap measure that doesn't address the root decline of a tax base in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County and, now, announced - State of Ohio.  Reduced taxes collected=Reduced services.  Kasich won't increase the state income tax rate on an already struggling populace and a depressed Ohio economy. That would be insanity.


I attended 11/17 Metroparks Board meeting where it was announced that the Park District would ask for temporary advance on their 2016 funds (normally received in 2017). This is not how any local government and non-governmental organization survives. (9:00 in the minutes)


More WRLC propaganda

Another study - and *suprise* the answer to the problem? MORE Demolitions! When does the PD and Clevelanddotcom stop promoting the mobsters who are behind this "study?" Some of us have been doing research, too? Guess what?! The insane "non-profit" industry in NEO is the problem. Oh, and the two crooks who set up CDCs and non-profits, like Cleveland Housing Network, Neighborhood Housing Services, Centers for Families, ad nauseum - they are the problem. Cuyahoga County's former treasurer and deputy treasurer. If I post their names, my comment will be deleted. Read the posts on CHN-Eden fraud at REALNEO dot us.

Henry Senyak, with the Lincoln Heights Block Club in Cleveland's Tremont neighborhood, believes the 15-year abatement was a good idea when it started 20 years ago, but now he feels the abatement in fast-growing neighborhoods is artificially driving up property values and property taxes for longtime homeowners, many whom are on fixed incomes


The Plain Dealer: Michelle I'm not sure how old you are, but in 2000 we were just coming off all the programs that were the beginning of this collapse, the economy was cranking, and money was being lent like crazy. Home values were artificially inflated. They weren't better off which is why the bubble of their inflated value busted. I've lived in the city my entire life and work as a contractor in the same area today. I'd guess you are either new to the area, never been to half the neighborhoods, or are under 30 years old. The reasons the outer suburbs didn't feel the hammer from the recession is because a higher amount of them live in a real estate model that is recession proof to being with. Another issue you have is that outer suburb demographic is predominantly white, or at least was at that time. The policies that started the ball rolling on the housing bubble were given loans to minorities who were not credit worthy in the name of giving everyone the american dream of owning a home. Finally you had mass corruption in Cleveland where people could make money quick flipping low cost homes using banks and elected officials to quickly inflate home value after purchase.

You can have all the charts you want. Prices in Hough, Glenville, St. Clair etc are never coming back. Nobody wants to move to a war zone. That's the issue, not the recession. 

Then again I'm guessing you didn't spend much time in Hough or King Kennedy or hanging out on Ansel Rd before or after the recession 


I've never heard such rumblings among residents wanting to leave the county until after the latest property tax increases were received a few weeks ago. County officials with their arbitrary and unexplained massive revaluations are doing their best to drive their tax base away.


The city in which I reside, Cleveland Heights, while unnamed in your story directly, is presumably one of the places being “left behind” in our current real estate market. And though there are definitely demographic forces at play here having to do with the foreclosure crisis (abandoned properties, change in percentage of home ownership, increasing rentals, etc) there are two other factors at work as well: philanthropic redlining and lack of governmental vision. 

In CLE neighborhoods that are thriving The Cleveland Foundation has lavished grant money on local development corporations and key nonprofit agencies. At the same time it has shut the door in the face of groups in the inner ring suburbs who have come to them with plans and purpose. In the Heights the mantra is that there is wealth in the community, and that philanthropic assistance is not needed - presumably we can do it ourselves with one of the highest tax burdens in the state and quickly increasing poverty. The Cleveland Foundation, with assets of over $2 billion, more than that of many developing nations, has effectively redlined our city while creating a “new neighborhood) in adjacent University Circle, sucking the life out of our retail and housing markets for the distinction of having a neighborhood to take tours to when other funders come to town. Our backwards-focused city government (still funding “fair housing” with CDBG dollars in a city almost 50% African American) that refuses to adopt representative, accountable governance also bears a big portion of responsibility. Yes, the foreclosure crisis continues in some East Side areas but let’s be clear that it’s not the only factor worth calling out.